Thursday, March 10, 2011

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SOLIDARITY 'A BRAGA MARIO ... There are others who must leave. Autosuspend rejected ... it goes on !!!!!

Dear Colleagues coordiniamoci action for renewal of the class ... "Change to exist "

For Tiraboschi. Agr. Piermaria


the Deputy CRPA
Dr. For. Agr. Venus

Members Regional Council Lombardo
; ; ;

Subject: Rejection of the notice of suspension from the College President of CRPA Mario Braga



Dear Colleagues I am sure that you both received the letter of the order in which it communicates Agr Mario Braga di'essersi suspended from office of President of our CRPA because of information given by the National President, For Agr Andrea Bottaro, at the meeting that was held in Brignano Gera d'Adda (BG).

The Chairman of the CNPA has informed us that it followed the proceedings by a court order against Agr Mario Braga and its competitors to defend their honor and dignity.

For competitors, the National President, stated that it intends to those who signed the document requesting any verification / commissioner sent to the Minister of Justice. This involvement must be considered personal and not expressed as representatives of the Colleges Provincial

I want to remember that the document cited (verification request any commissioner) was sent to the Minister with the signing of some provincial presidents of Lombardy, Piedmont and Veneto as representatives of their Provincial Councils. The College of Brescia has sought to approve the document quoted also by their Provincial Assembly.

Considering, therefore, that the actions taken by our Regional President, in preparation of proposta, di valutazione, di approvazione e di trasmissione (Braga non ha sottoscritto nessun documento, non essendo Presidente di Consiglio di Collegio Provinciale) sono sempre state circoscritte allo stretto ambito dei rappresentanti del CRPA e dei Consigli dei Collegi Provinciali del Coordinamento fra le regioni del Nord (iniziativa autopromossa a Lonato).

Ritenendo altresì che Braga abbia agito nell’assolvimento dei compiti a lui assegnati in veste di Presidente del CRPA e che tutte le iniziative azioni che hanno coinvolto la complessa e delicata situazione sono state valutate e vissute da tutti i Consigli dei Collegi Provinciali. Che il Presidente Regionale non abbia messo in atto alcuna iniziativa estemporanea e personale, almeno per quanto di mia conoscenza , pertanto in considerazione di quanto sopra, ritengo utile che il Vicepresidente Andrea Veneri convochi in tempi ristretti un Consiglio CRPA per respingere la comunicazione di sospensione del nostro collega e Presidente Regionale Mario Braga e si confermi la linea dell’ azione del Consiglio Regionale.

Ringraziandovi vi porgo un caro saluto

                                                                      Per. Agr. Tiraboschi Piermaria

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MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT OF NATIONAL M. Braga

I received the note from colleague, Mario Braga President (autosospeso) Council Lombardo land surveyors, which will then result, for a detailed account of the meeting with the President that there was Bottaro. Of course, to be a proper comparison would be even a note from the National President, requested that the undersigned at the meeting I had promised. I look forward !!!!.
Sincerely
Piermaria Tiraboschi

CONSIDERATIONS ON THE MEETING OF 3/11/2005 BRIGNANO GERA D'ADDA (BG)


MEETING THE PRESIDENT OF NATIONAL


Dear Colleagues

believe not to reveal secrets, saying that the National President informed the National Board on the outcome of the meeting held with the CRPA.

A positive feedback to him as "he" achieved the goal of explaining, and then, to persuade those present about the goodness of the initiatives undertaken by the CNPA on

and Establishment of COGEPAPI and new orders;

and Accounts of the National Council;

and Fusion case with surveyors and land surveyors Surveyors Industrial

and judicial proceedings brought against Mr Mario Braga and its competitors.

I regret that radically contradict his staff and, dare I call it, extemporaneous interpretation.

Maybe I attended a meeting different from yours, but the reading of what happened makes me express the considerations listed below.

Objectionable the attitude of personal attack on my person.

Sarei a suo dire geloso. Avrei i denti avvelenati.

Farei opposizione per un fattore di avversità personale.

Avrei un carattere e un atteggiamento presuntuoso che mi pone fuori dal contesto e che mi farebbe perdere ogni competizione. A supporto delle sue battute, avendo informatori di qualità, ha citato il Commissariamento di API (Alleanza per l’Italia di Brescia) di cui solo il giorno prima ero stato eletto Coordinatore).

Non è mancata la stoccata circa il mio attaccamento alla seggiola. Da Consigliere (prima consiglia tura) ero un oppositore determinato. Nella seconda, da Vicepresidente, sarei diventato un piatto e silenzioso compartecipe della sua gestione.

Peccato che continui a secretare tutti i documenti. Potremmo godere delle sue affermazioni e, quindi, di quanto a suo dire avvenuto proprio in quegli anni ripercorrendo i verbali.

Potremmo forse capire perché ci mise così alto, diretto impegno per farmi fuori (battute emerse in occasione del rinnovo del CNPA in cui ritirai la mia candidatura dopo delicato intervento di alcuni esponenti lombardi), coinvolgendo i suoi amici periferici lombardi.

Credo di non dover invidiare nulla a nessuno, potendo vantare un curriculum che mi permette, oggi, di dialogare con tutta la società e la politica Bresciana e Lombarda.

Rispetto e stima si conquistano con la correttezza degli atti e si consolidano se la coerenza si fa costante.

Of course, those who can not find answers to the basket too many gaps still not personal things to do than invent reasons personal conflict that are generated on the ground of distorted feelings. Truly a bleak attitude personally and professionally.

one thing I care, too many concrete answers to the misleading, instrumental, useless and harmful to the CNPA initiatives implemented over the past 20 years.

lock category due to a management staff and flattened, which has had a cast on the assertion of our professional skills. (The order is stuck at 1991. The company has gone beyond).

His personal.

A person affected by a trial and conviction at first instance, national representative of our class, for ethical and ethics, should not even be asked to step aside.

He should resign immediately in order to better defend their honor and dignity.

He, however, preferred to fight against everything and everyone, using the tools of the CNPA.

The threatened legal action to the undersigned and its competitors (Presidents of the College Assembly and Provincial Councils) show how the President Bottaro who cares category. The

sincerely hope, for him and his family, that some judge deems innocent, but I can not emphasize the seriousness of his actions involving the colleges.

's not much use to declare that the responsibility of the individual though presidents are, as stated in Brignano Gera d'Adda, because the initiatives that have pertinence to the fact that the grave is involved, the first criminal conviction in grade, were approved by the Provincial Councils of the Colleges. And also the documents that improperly cites in his speeches, other are not, as you know, that drafts of a document dismissed by some Provincial Councils of the Colleges in the region of Lombardy, Piedmont and Veneto.

If justice were to achieve the goal of prescription in all land surveyors and land surveyors Graduates Italians remain the bitterness of a personal choice fell in the categorical context.

Regarding the COGEPAPI.

When lies are thinking in danger of sinking in the same mud in which they swim.

The National President calls 2004, the school reform Berlinguer, to get to this day to justify this merger with the Industrial Technicians and Surveyors, categories friend and collaborator (now camouflaged by the Federation. The bill is expressed as an institution of Register Act) as the solution of our difficulties.

If he had done an examination of conscience, he would see in the mirror all the inadequacies protection and promotion of our prerogatives in this showed its management.

Since 2004 we have followed four adjustments, updates, changes Berlinguer reform (February 2000 Berlinguer, 2003 Moratti Reform, Reform called silent Fioroni, 2007, Reform Mussi 2008, Gelmini Reform 2008-2010), in addition to seeing light the university reform.

I do not know, because it had never been done, the CNPA has involved the provincial College and all members to consider further these issues pertaining to a sea change in our category. The

COGEPAPI, as has been suggested, is a project that would affect and would seriously undermine our job prospects.

serious is the fact that the CNPA would prevent the debate, compared with those who think differently.

Just read the articles in the agricultural expert and maybe we can recover in the affinity business model with some propaganda minister who became famous in the twenty years.

If this is so convinced, the National President, that the vast majority of land surveyors on her side to convene an assembly where the various arguments can be presented, can be evaluated and are therefore approved.

I continue to insist on seeing the project COGEPAPI useless and detrimental to our profession.

Legal reform.

When you make fun of the lists with colleagues pilfered from some Blogs, you run the risk of making a bad impression. Proponents of the

COGEPAPI can not propose legal reform, because the two standards are competing.

No bill to reform of our legal system has been preset in the last two years (current term).

The Case

to open the drawer of the allegations involving our case one could write a treatise.

Bottaro management wanted the merger of our case with that of Surveyors and Industrial Technicians. Point and head.

It suffices to read your speech in the hearing of the Commission jointly assembled (II Justice Commissions and X ° Productive Activities).

Just read the minutes of the CNPA.

Just retrieve the document signed by our representative of the North, Fang, after his non-renewal on the Administrative Committee.

I can assure you that no one can touch our case.

It 's a commitment that I made and confirm that with great determination.

why?

We are in a common house (ENPAIA). The environment is qualitatively and friendly cooperation. We have the lowest costs among all the speakers. Our management has returns healthy, solid and with results that place it among the speakers at the top "private" domestic.

Every choice requires profound changes must provide for the concrete involvement of members to the fund.


The Budget.

absence Colleagues Bertazzo and Orsini, by meeting Brigna Gera D'Adda, it was easy for the National President, telling the usual tales of "The National Councillors are all informed, in advance."

We want to be more and with greater detail that allows each member to be able to see how and where they spent the money for their fees.
About
who hides or is hidden because he placed a few small bone in the closet?.

remember, at that period of my leveling, to say the National President, the battles of danger to recover the unexplained delay of some colleges in arrears.

For some, our National President, instead of following the procedures laid down by current laws (we are a public body) prefer to follow other paths.

The budget may be exploited?

If I think the use of the College of Naples Cimmino, I seem to grasp the inverse problem. Less clear doubt.

They give the numbers, as he recalled the National President, riportando chiacchiere che non si sa bene dove le vada a raccogliere, quando i Bilanci sono assemblati in capitoli illeggibili. (Ovviamente, così come ha affermato il Ministro Brunetta, la difformità di elaborazione dei Bilanci è male che attanaglia anche gli Enti Locali). Come dire: “Mal comune tutto gaudio”.

La difesa della categoria?

Porti il Presidente Nazionale, se lo ritiene opportuno, il resoconto dei costi delle consulenze legali corredati degli elenchi delle stesse cause sostenute.

Scopriremo che il CNPA si è occupato di: competizione, concorrenza con le categorie affini (Agrotecnici, Agronomi). Nessuna resistenza, ovviamente significativa, è been put in place against ministries, regional and professional organizations to attract and protect our professional prerogatives.

I will reply that to get the great results it is better to relate to authority and representative quality.

Read on as we went forward in the last twenty years I have a feeling that the only authority that has obtained the articles on Agricultural Expert.

the management model in its class.

regard to a change in the structural architecture of our class and to a radical change in relations between the various representative levels I heard once again in Brignano Gera d'Adda, the poetry of the will, we are planning, we are making the laws, we are talking with the minister, we will receive the Head of Cabinet of Ministers and so on. etc..

the National President, at least on this occasion he accepted the invitation of "bowling" The CRPA (Regional Council land surveyors and land surveyors in Lombardy. Unfortunately, due to disease is not invented or strategies, were absent, Councilor Bertazzo CNPA, Gariboldi Pavia, Gnocchi Milano, Alessi Sondrio, Como Pellegatta, Orsini perhaps abroad), the word on this occasion he escaped once when he had to describe my role, which always invokes the law escapes the fact that if there was will 90% of the choices are:

and the role and function of the President of the National Assembly;

and the role and function of Coordination (bad word) I prefer the regional councils;

and reorganization of the provincial Colleges;

and recognition of new skills;

integration of the scale;

were approved and implemented.

Once the lies made his nose grow, now they lower the force (training).

I could dwell for much longer and deal with every aspect that relates to our class, in the near future do not miss the opportunity.

Chi crede nella categoria non l’abbandona mai, (ovviamente non è riferito alla Presidenza che come le categorie del DPR 169/05 dovrebbero avere un limite di mandato), anche se deve quotidianamente competere con chi la categoria la vuole occupare.

Con queste riflessioni o solo voluto ripristinare la verità. Tra le affermazioni del Presidente Nazionale e le nostre (Regione Lombardia) la distanza e polare.

Un cordiale saluto a tutti

                                                                                                        Mario Braga

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Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Does Megalodon Still Exist?

STRONG IN BERGAMO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT AND THE REGIONAL COUNCIL BOTTARO LOMBARDO land surveyors: Braga AUTOSOSPENDE.

The meeting was finally there and it was lively, bubbly, and at times even edgy and agitated. Despite the justified
consent of representatives of the Provincial (Pavia, Como and Milan, which has joined with written notice) the comparison was divided on all topics of particular interest at this time for the category and it was constructive to clarify further the different positions that exist between the CNPA and the CRPA, however, positions that were already known.
meticulous, detailed EPlace the President of the National Bottaro, precise and unambiguous specifications and claims Representatives of the CRPA (Braga, Rossi, Venus, Caprioli, Cuter, Tiraboschi, etc.) on:
1) Presentation and publication of the budget for members;
2) Need to bring order and rates;
3) do not share the project Cogepapi , merging with other colleges;
4) autonomy of the social security funds;
5) greater collabarozione between CNPA and the territory;
6) more information.
In an extension of the comparison, there was great tension when President Braga President Bottaro requested clarification regarding the enforceability of the CNPA resolved by a bulletin n.3/2010 regard to actions by the competent authorities to protect the del Consiglio Nazionale nei confronti di Braga e accoliti. Il Presidente Bottaro ribadiva e precisava  che quanto comunicato nella circolare è stato attivato con mandato ai legali. Il Presidente Braga preso atto della dichiarazione ha manifestato il suo dissenso verso l'ingiustificata iniziativa e al fine di poter tutelare la Categoria e le sue iniziative personali ha dichiarato la Sua " autosospensione dalla Presidenza del CRPA".
Nel pomeriggio dopo ancora qualche vivace scambio di opinione l'incontro si è chiuso.

Breve nota.

Quanto sopra è una sintesi dell'incontro che, forse non da la  percezione della forte tensione che c'è stata  e le profonde diversità di vedute that were confirmed between the CNPA and CRPA
hard line, without top-down and the National President has opposed the need for change, to agree on new measures to be decided jointly by the CRPA .. change to exist.
Two schools of thought in contrast!
hospitality to
Piermaria Tiraboschi
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Thursday, March 3, 2011

Special Needs Changing Table

STOP INCREASE AID TO SUPPLEMENTARY FUND.

The Senate Budget Committee rejects the increase in the contribution of additional parcel of professionals from 2 to 5%. The bill now returns to committee work.
The reasons are due to the danger of an increase in professional fees, with negative effects on inflation.
PeritiAgrariLiberi

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Tired Chronic Sinusitis

I AM A REGISTERED AND I WANT TO KNOW: COSTS AND BENEFITS !!!!!

Today we must be careful what and how you spend the pennies. The economic difficulties so require and all the cost centers should do it ... the Council also Naziionale.
But, not having officially accounts available (Annual CNPA with the relevant reports)
because "we never presented to the members that we pay for land surveyors is difficult to verify their virtuosity, but nobody prevents us from making some simple assumptions I would like to offer you a riflesione.
If members of the provincial Colleges and Italy are 17,000 cu pay € 40 to the CNPA, the account is easily done, the total proceeds should be approximately € 680,000 (which is about 1.3 billion Lirette) unless of course the arrears, other data that we have not and never has been submitted to the usual coglionazzi ........ then you can presume that the pain there are not paying. But do not worry this is how you administer ....... or not!!
Specifically, the CNPA has cash inflows to meet its institutional tasks laid down by law, not by paco, if we assume that the turn to cover running costs should lead to a balanced budget: ZERO at least .... we hope that is not sub-zero! So incase it
€ 680,000 and spend € 680,000 and the omelet is done .. everything OK.
This is the first part of the problem, the second is that with all this money spent on the agricultural expert and the whole category is happy, "the benefits they receive in return??
The how is spent 1.3 billion lire per year, who know only in Rome, meets our expectations, that we are happy with what we receive to support the exercise of our professional activity or not??
Uses Linux resources for national political fiction Congress with the theme: "Globalization of the market 10 years later," the realization of the newspaper "The Agricultural Expert, the promised and expensive services, the merger consideration with surveyors and loss adjusters industriuali and representation (which is expensive) initiatives that are considered posssiamo rewarding than the costs incurred??.
The sling that I made and that so many colleagues can easily do, is not a plausible justification for the cost benefici...lo imbalance is bankrupt ...... try to think about it. Sincerely

Piermaria Tiraboschi

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Ichalkaranji Tents Works

ADVICE OF WORK: INPS REINTEGRATION land surveyors and Agrotecnica

Better late than never!
Thanks to the timely intervention of the National Council of Agricultural Technicians and some presidents of the colleges of the provincial land surveyors has been answered positively INPS the story relating to the "PIN qualified intermediary" that previously excluded in the forms of The agro-technicians and land surveyors. Timing
concert (with the exception of that always comes after CNPA) has solved the misunderstanding in a very short time. A positive test that rewards .... when there is collaboration.
PeritiAgrariLiberi.

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Wednesday, March 2, 2011

Menchies Gross Revenue

It sounds SUBJECT: BOTTARO IS IN LOMBARDY!

say that the latest meeting of the REGIONAL COUNCIL LOMBARDO land surveyors with the President BOTTARO was set and confirmed.

Saturday, March 5, 2011 - AT 10.00
AT: THE FARM CAPETONE - VIA CASTELROZZONE N. 36 - IN THE TOWN OF FROST GERA D'ADDA (BG)

Dear Colleagues will be a wonderful opportunity to deal with the National Council on the burning issues of our profession, so if you come you can not miss this opportunity.
spend some of vs. time to these initiatives is good for you and the whole category.
DO NOT MISS IT !!!!!!

Sincerely
Piermaria Tiraboschi

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